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A Tradition That Cherishes Poker, Not Pumpkin Pie, Thursday November 26, 2009 USA

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Post by POGA on Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:29 pm

A US Newspaper! Yay for Show! And for endlessjoy for finding it.

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A Tradition That Cherishes Poker, Not Pumpkin Pie

Source: NY Times

UNCASVILLE, Conn. — Some traditions are indelibly carved into the nation’s psyche, among them tucking in late each November to inadvisable amounts of mashed potatoes, turkey and pie. Then there are the traditions that spring from an indifference to all that, which is how Jennifer Bi, 41 years old, mother and manicurist, daughter of China and denizen of Flushing, Queens, found herself staring down a baccarat table in a Connecticut casino at 3 a.m. on Thanksgiving.

The air around her was filled by dinging slot machines and the yelps and groans that signified money being won and lost, but Ms. Bi was singularly focused on the baccarat table, surrounded three deep by people waiting to pay the $100 buy-in to play. She had arrived here at the casino, Mohegan Sun, around 1 a.m. with her 16-year-old daughter and 12 friends in tow.

The plan was to stay until about 5 a.m. and then groggily head home, after a little gambling and a lot of gawking at the thousands of others with Chinese roots who had made the same annual pilgrimage.

“Thanksgiving doesn’t mean a lot to us; it’s a vacation,” said Chan Juan Zhou, a 21-year-old college student who lives in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, and studies civil engineering. Ms. Zhou arrived at the casino with 13 friends around midnight on a jammed bus from Chinatown.

Heading to casinos first became a Thanksgiving activity for Chinese immigrants decades ago because the holiday is one of the only days that Chinese restaurants are either run by a skeleton staff or closed. Mohegan Sun is one of several regional casinos that compete for this crowd. On any other day, 50 buses might run between Mohegan Sun and Chinese neighborhoods in New York, along with some from Massachusetts; on Thanksgiving, there are 100.

“Most restaurant workers take the day off, gather with friends and go find entertainment,” said Joe Lam, president of L-3 Advertising and a longtime member of New York’s Chinese Chamber of Commerce. “This is something that Asian immigrants rely on.”

In recent years, casinos have broadened their appeal; restaurant workers now make up only part of their Chinese crowds at Thanksgiving, and gambling is only part of the draw. Each year, Mohegan Sun lines up a pop star with Chinese appeal, and this time, it was Show Luo, a boyish and winsome Taiwanese singer and dancer, who performed two-hour shows at 2 a.m. and 2 p.m. At each performance, stylish Chinese youths filled the arena by the thousands, the girls in mod haircuts, tiny skirts and precarious heels, the boys with spiky asymmetrical hair and neck scarves.

“The Chinese don’t have that much entertainment here in the United States,” said Ms. Zhou, who moved to the United States from China nine years ago, and showed up at the casino not to gamble, but to see Mr. Luo, whom she deemed a “great dancer” and “handsome.”

Ayesha Ma, Mohegan Sun’s Asian advertising and public relations manager, estimated that 6,000 Chinese people flooded into the casino late Wednesday night, wide awake and excited for the sleepless night ahead.

“They come in after work, enjoy the time after work, go back at 5 or 6 in the morning,” Ms. Ma said. “They have that kind of energy.”

Still, most of Mohegan Sun’s 1,200 hotel rooms were filled Wednesday night by Chinese patrons, sending front desk clerks scrambling to meet requests for rooms or floors with lucky numbers. Highest in demand: anything with an 8 — in Chinese it sounds like the word for prosper — or a 2, lucky because it connotes doubling. Last to go, and taken only grudgingly, was anything containing the dreaded No. 4; in Chinese, the number sounds like the word for death.

After the buses delivered people in great waves late Wednesday, visitors, often with tiny children, strolled through the casino’s hallways and shops, softly aglow in artificial light. The casino’s Sunrise Square, which is stocked with mini-baccarat and Chinese games like pai gow tiles and pai gow poker, became packed, filled with the sounds of Cantonese and Mandarin and plumes of smoke, as young men hunched over steaming bowls of noodles nearby, eating quickly in a whir of chopsticks.

As the night wore on, young people surged toward the arena, chattering and flirting, eager to see Mr. Luo’s 2 a.m. show, as the middle-aged patrons settled in for a long night at the tables of Sunrise Square. Off in a corner, lining rows of long soft couches, were Chinese patrons who were older yet, fast asleep, mouths agape, gray heads resting on the plush cushions.

The night slipped by in the suspended, airless way that marks the passage of time in casinos, until the concert was over, and the buses arrived before dawn, fetching, among the thousands of riders, Ms. Zhou and her friends, who were still exhilarated from the show and only a little sleepy.


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Post by avondale09 on Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:01 pm

OMG YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Sanguine on Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:07 pm

lol at "boyish and winsome" i wonder what he'll make of that statment?
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Post by avondale09 on Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:19 pm

Like I said, understatement of a lifetime... lol.
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:12 pm

Lol boyish and winsome. Hm, not bad.
But YAY THE NY TIMES!
I wish they put a picture of him though. Then I would hang the paper up on my wall or something xDDD
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Post by POGA on Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:18 pm

^The picture thing is probably a legal issue. For instance--companies like Japan's Johnny group don't allow official pics without permission, on reputable papers (tabloids are a whole 'nother story--no one can control them). To get a pic, I think NY Times needed his company's permission. I may be wrong, of course. It could also be because the article was more focused on the Chinese as a whole than on Show's performance
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Post by Xiao Feng on Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:13 pm

Boyish and winsome... xDDDD.

It's a great thing that they mentioned him in the NY Times!! But it's a shame the legal issue about the picture, if they had been able to put a picture everyone would have seen how "boyish and winsome" is a HUGE understatement... xD.
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:23 pm

Yeaaahh it was a huge understatement. Words can't describe hahaha! =P
Oh. Legal issues, that makes sense. Awww I would be so excited to see him in the Times though! Ha~ xP
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Post by o_ost1nao_o on Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:00 pm

LoL boyish and winsome.
the reporter obviously has no idea. hahah x)

PLUS, she Cara Buckley, though she may not have any intention of it, but having titled the article the way she did is pretty much condescending, and perhaps a little prejudice?

Anyway, her article wasn't focused on Show, and she obviously didn't even know enough about the concert to get his name right. Smile She just happened to have to do an article, and at Mohegan Sun is probably where you'd find tons of Asians, and there happened to be an excessive amount of them at one place at that particular time. Smile

Anyway, i have nothing against Cara Buckley, whoever she is, but her article is sub-mediocre at best Smile

But on a happier note, Hooray for Show's name in an American Paper written by a Non-Asian! This is almost as good as that one time he was on Access Hollywood Smile heh. heh. heh, only almost though Razz

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Post by POGA on Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:05 pm

^WAIT, WHAT??!! Back up, stina, back up. He was on Access Hollywood? Where? When? How long? And where is the clip??!! I must see. Now! Very Happy

Haha, I soudn insane. Seriously, though. Where?
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:10 pm

^ LOL Thats exactly my question!
*scours youtube* lol
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Post by POGA on Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:12 pm

^I found it.

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It's so short. And doesn't match up to the amount they showed for Europe. But it's still so cool. And he looks so good! So much better than Zac Efron. So much better.
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:33 pm

Oh woooooow how does that even compare...
I'm watching the video and saying OH COME ON SHOW'S is obviously WAAAAYYYYYYYY HOTTER! Lmao. xDDD
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Post by o_ost1nao_o on Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:05 pm

^ oh wow good job finding it! LoL i haven't seen that video in forever! haha Smile

yeah it was short. but it was kinda cool to see him on american TV Smile

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Post by kriztetalovesxioazhu on Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:05 am

oh wow...im happy that SHOW LO's name was in an American newspaper though...this should be the start of SHOW's continuous success in US and hopefully he'll get more recognition from other people not just Chinese cheers Congrats SHOW LO for your successful concert!!!

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Post by dimpleyy on Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:15 am

Woot Woot! He was on the NY Times! Very Happy

He was also on the world journal Smile
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Post by Xiao Feng on Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:05 pm

Wait a minute, the woman in the video says "Let's take a look at how the artists around the world compare to the real stars like Zac Efron"? REALLY? Just because he's taiwanese he's not a real star? Come on, Show is to so many people (me included, of course) much more a REAL star than Zac Efron, whom I personally can't stand...
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Post by POGA on Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:16 pm

Yeah, that part was pretty insulting. I also can't stand Zac Efron--anything about him--so I was like, "Wait, excuse me? Have you gotten the two confused?" But yeah...it's petty racist/prejudiced as well, if you think about it, because she's basically saying no one matches up to America.
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Post by avondale09 on Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:52 pm

Pfffft that's ridiculous, I didn't even notice she said that. Apparently, they REALLY have no idea who he is. Wow. Like... wow, lol.
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Post by Xiao Feng on Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:58 pm

avondale09 wrote:Pfffft that's ridiculous, I didn't even notice she said that. Apparently, they REALLY have no idea who he is. Wow. Like... wow, lol.

I'm sure they don't. If they had known him at all they would have realised that he IS a real star!

I found it offensive when I watched it...
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Post by piggypiglet30 on Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:28 pm

i know i watch it and she was like, "how they compare to the real stars.." it's like they can't match up to people like zac efron... i mean come on, personally i also think Show is so much better than zac efron...and it's also pretty narrow minded of them to think that other stars from other countries aren't up to par with stars in america. i watch access hollywood sometimes and they can be pretty bad in what they sometimes say, and they are one of those opinionated type entertainment shows..kinda like TMZ...

but about the newspaper article, i am very proud and happy for him and i hope he continues to be recognized around the world...so he can show people what a REAL star is truely made of...Smile
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:57 pm

I personally have nothing against Zac Efron, but... seriously. He's completely no match for Show lol... seriously.
omg the American mindset, and to think that I live in this country. kill me now. lol...
lol i have a copy of the world journal. they said such good stuff about him yay ^^
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Post by woainishow on Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:35 am

dimpleyy wrote:Woot Woot! He was on the NY Times! Very Happy

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Wow thanks for sharing...I hope someone translates the World Journal aritcle! Did the article say that 8,000 fans came to his concert? That is a LOT of people, considering that the Mohegan Sun only seats up to 10,000 Wink
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:43 am

oh i'll translate it in an hour or something. after i finish eating. and if no one else gets to it first Razz
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Post by dimpleyy on Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:49 am

^ Thanks in advance for translating! Yeahh 8000 audience is really good! I went to Richie Ren concert and it was alot less. (well, maybe he's more for the oldies lol)

Xiao Feng wrote:Wait a minute, the woman in the video says "Let's take a look at how the artists around the world compare to the real stars like Zac Efron"? REALLY? Just because he's taiwanese he's not a real star? Come on, Show is to so many people (me included, of course) much more a REAL star than Zac Efron, whom I personally can't stand...

Hahah I so agree. I don't get the hype with Zac Efron (or Twilight just to add on. Sorry Twilight fans!).
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:36 am

The new Dance King of Asia, Show Luo’s Thanksgiving Concert’s massive turnout filled Mohegan Sun’s Concert Arena, celebrating the holiday with over 20,000 Chinese. It was Show’s first time to hold a concert on the east coast, and the popular young idol drew many young fans. His 2am concert had a massive turnout and the second concert also attracted over 8000 fans’ admiration. Mohegan Sun Casino also offered turkey buffet, with the Chinese customers completing the festive atmosphere.
Show started off with his Guo Wang You Xi (King’s Game), his very stylish outfit and moving dance setting fire to the audience’s passion. The atmosphere of the entire night was very hot, and many fans expressed that Show’s dance skills were remarkably impressive. When he started singing Ai Zhuan Jiao (Corner with Love), it caused the entire arena to sing along. The nearer half of the concert arena seats was filled with female fans, and Show’s interaction with the audience even more added to the excitement filling the atmosphere.
The highlight of Show’s performance was that of Michael Jackson’s Billie Jean, as a tribute. With white gloves and doing the moonwalk, he caused his fans to cheer and scream nonstop.
Another climax of the performance was when Show chose a lucky member of the audience to join him onstage, singing Ji Fen to her, the two of them sitting closely together on the heart-shaped sofa. The female fan was very excited and kept taking her phone out to take pictures, and at the end the two embraced for one minute, and the atmosphere reached the highest point.
Rainie Yang sang Lian Ai Da Ren with Show, and also sand Li Xiang Qing Ren to Show’s fans, a song that just happened to express how Show’s fans felt about him.
Although Show’s English wasn’t that good, he had the guts to speak English continually during the concert, and the fans felt his passion as well. Show’s singing and dancing made up an atmosphere for the concert to come to a satisfactory close.


okay not the best translation, but i'm tired and i have more stuff to translate for hw xP
so do forgive any weird grammar and stuffs. chinese has madd long runons xDDD
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Post by woainishow on Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:30 am

Very nice translation dragon35fire90! This is a very good article, and the writer maintains a good pace by letting the joy and excitement of the fans flow through the article...unlike *coughcarabuckleycough* Smile
I'm not saying she wrote a bad article, just that it could have been a little more...well-balanced? I mean, I don't think all chinese people who live in the US are rushing to casinos as a Thanksgiving retreat...

I don't think I've ever seen that access hollywood video before! Shocked
Soo...obviously we all know that there are some who believe that their own countries' artists are better than others, but did they even research Show? In 2007 is when he had his SOS Concert Tour, and then not long after his Cruel Stage one...how did they miss that? Suspect Well, whatever...tabloid shows like those don't always check their facts, they just follow the gossip frenzy Neutral

o_ost1nao_o wrote:Anyway, her article wasn't focused on Show, and she obviously didn't even know enough about the concert to get his name right.

Really stina? So should I spell his name as 'Lo'? Although I admit that it's hard for me to pronounce his name to others...I almost always say 'Lo' instead of 'Luo' Very Happy
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Post by POGA on Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:34 am

^Like people have said, "officially" it's Show Lo. In China, it's Show Luo or 罗志祥. Since Show is Taiwanese, technically, the article should be "Show Lo" because that's what it is like on posters, I believe. SO yeah, the writer messed up. I use Luo because uh...I'm mainland and that's easier for me to remember, I guess. It's not really a big deal, though.

Haha. Actually, all my friends (Chinese) are big on Thanksgiving. The whole turkey and mashed potatoes and everything. So...yeah. The article was a bit racist as well.
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Post by dragon35fire90 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:40 am

aw thanks. i actually had to look up words to try to get everything to flow but i ended up taking like ten minutes and not really trying xPP

sigh. I have lost respect for the Times. And I have decided on writing an email to complain about that tomorrow lol.
And I use Show Luo too because, well, I don't know. I hardly ever say his name in english, it's always "Luo Zhi Xiang" or "Luo Xiang" or "Xiang Xiang" or something like that xDD lmao~
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Post by annakebana on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:23 am

cool.
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